Clearly a tough set of results for the Liberal democrats – but not all gloom and doom. Here is Mark Pack’s post on LibDem Voice (before the London results came in)
Beyond the headlines, six points in particular strike me:
1. It looks as if the party will keep control of all the councils that had Lib Dem majorities before Thursday. Cambridge is a technical loss, but the party will keep control on the Mayor’s casting vote. Each of those Lib Dem council leaders and their teams deserve heavy praise for that impressive verdict on their council and political skills. (one lost post this post).
2. The results in seats with Liberal Democrat MPs, at least in England, have generally been good, not only in southern England but elsewhere too. In Hallam, for example, we won every seat and our vote was up on last year. That is a major saving grace: the local election base where it really matters for general election results has come out of the last two years in a much better state than elsewhere.
3. Outside MP seats, some areas where the party would hope to gain MPs in future elections, such as in Winchester, showed decent progress on last year and an ability to go head-to-head with the Tories and survive. Some, but by no means all. There is, however, a big enough local government place in the sorts of seats the party could fight seriously for the party to be able to be contesting seriously comfortably more seats than it has won in any previous general election. If the party has to fight on a smaller front that will be because of other political considerations, not because the local base is not there. That is particularly worth stating because some in the media are trying to push as “the party is doomed” line.
4. The smaller parties have generally done badly. UKIP may have piled up some votes, but it is not breaking through in winning seats. The Greens have continued their generally lacklustre performance of the past few years. Winning their first Parliamentary seat in 2010 is the major caveat to that, but even in the 2010 election results elsewhere were frequently poor and their local government base has not made a breakthrough. Thankfully the same too can be said of the BNP, who have been doing even worse – probably ending up losing all their seats up for election.
5. Labour’s progress is decent but not spectacular. Their results this year are (still) worse than other previous oppositions have achieved, even some which have gone on to defeat. Superficially that is bad news for Labour, showing how far their recovery still has to go, but it is also a warning for the government: this may not be Labour’s peak of mid-term popularity.
6. Unless there is a bizarre outbreak of reshuffle panic, any changes should wait until Jeremy Hunt’s fate is clearer, i.e. until after his appearance at the Leveson Inquiry. When a reshuffle does come, the Liberal Democrat changes will see David Laws return. Given the size of the task still facing the party, changes should also be made that reflect the relative media ability of Lib Dem ministers (see this league table). There is no room for those who are content to be low profile. Every minister needs to be making a full contribution to getting over the party’s message.
LDs fourth in Mayoral election and fourth in Assembly election. That’s all you really need to know.
Why the perpetual politicisation of local elections and policies, this is just the creeping centralisation of local government. It’s pernicious and wrong. Local elections should be fought on local issues, and anyone with party affiliations should be barred from standing.
Normal mid term blues. When the vote is for parliament, the public know Standard & Poor’s red pen is poised for action if the squanderbugs get back in. In the meantime Lib Dem influence is needed to make sure the dinosaurs don’t come back to life and start arguing off the point for backward social policies.
I have to say I agreed with Nick. I cheered after he made the call for transparency and honesty in politics.
When the musical chairs of the next general election stop and the Lib Dems are left standing without a single seat this will be his abiding legacy. For no future party will ever dare renege on an election pledge in the brazen way Clegg did over tuition fees. It will serve as a warning from history, a warning I’ll hope you pass on to the incoming generation of Lib Dem idealists as you skulk shame faced out of the back door of politics. ‘It was our fault’ you can tell them. ‘We didn’t realise how angry with us the voters were until one of our candidates lost to a guy dressed as a penguin.’
The London lesson is that precocious personality and talent based on experience beyond Parliament are making a comeback. Difficult times demand more than dancing bandy-legged round the camp fire wailing old incantations that no longer work.
Problem with the Liberal Democrats is they get an equal share of the government bashing and angst yet being the minority party do not have as many positions & voters to shed. As you lose them they have a bigger affect and are harder to rebuild the lost votes back into the fold. Still think it’s crazy people got rid of AV because they hated Nick despite them having fought for AV for years. Thickle public. Still have my vote, despite really not being your biggest fan still miles better then Labour.
Rolling on the floor laughing at number 6. Heaven forfend the Lib Dems promote people on the basis of actual talent and ability eh Lynne.
Hiya
Here’s my super 6 points;
1. Lib Tory Dems got spanked because the public (however fickle) can’t tolerate liars.
2. You lied about 8 items pre-May 2010 which you’ve done a complete about face on now you’ve got a little seat at Theresa May’s table . And as the MP for Hornsey & WG, that’s how you’ll be remembered!
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And here’s the condensed version: You were beaten in Edinburgh by a man dressed in a penguin suit who said he came from outer space…